it is 4.80 a gallon in chicago and 3.50 in new jersey. >> why should we fool with the key stone pipe line if it is exported. if oil is going to find the best home for the price. i am a free marketer. i want oil to go where the best price and it should be here in america and shouldn't be more expensive in our own country than it is to send it overseas. refined or not. >> charles are we paying market prices or is it artificially manipulated. is it about money grubbing? >> it is about business people doing what they are good at which is making money and the electric crisis we saw in california, producers learn if they shorted the market,s would sky rocketing 10-fold. that is simple and what smart business people do but not good economic policy and not a fair and competitive market. >> there is nothing illegal for a business to be long or short in the oil market. >> it is not simple as you build a pipe line and you have oil. >> it is simple as making one blend for gasoline. >> i am talking about everyone talking about the key stone pipe line reflecting in the price at the pump. >> any ti